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07 August 2006

US Troops' Iraqi Rape & Murder Room ...

We are far too angry to add more than a bare minimum of words to this photo -- since we do understand that not all Americans are murderous monsters.

Suffice to say that shown above is the spot where a poor innocent, young Iraqi girl was shot to death in cold blood -- after first being gang raped, by some animals in American uniforms.

Other members of the poor girl's family were summarily slaughtered out of hand, at the same time.

As we actually have some very good American friends who we would like to keep as friends, and since we're short on suitable and/or adequate words -- and similarly short on self constraint -- we're shutting up.

We may also throw-up.

BBC Link = US troops took turns ...



Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anything SaddamCo & Sons can do, Yanks can do better. Ugh.

7:17 pm  
Anonymous whoever said...

More sickening details here.

Damn these bastards to hell.

7:36 pm  
Anonymous musings said...

As an American woman who is familiar with a certain type of male here (I am sure the world is full of them), I can only say that "absolute power corrupts absolutely." This is a nation with a history of slavery followed by a racial apartheid in which the law did not protect blacks. Not only are ghettoes still full of black on black violence (some of it the simple expression of brute force on innocent bystanders), we have a very high murder rate in general compared to the rest of the developed world. And high infant mortality. We have sent our poorest men to Iraq, in order to plant a spurious democracy. What else can be expected? And how predictable that the twists and turns of this case (including the kidnap and mutilation after the rape/murders of men from the same unit - spun as "al-Qaeda in Iraq") included a long-term cover-up. It is just a miracle the story came to light at all. Before the case is over and entirely cold and forgotten (by America), let us offer a prayer for the young woman who was hunted down like an animal, and for all like her still in harm's way. She might have grown up. I am a survivor, of something similar. Every day I am alive is a miracle. I was opposed to this war from the first. I am opposed to violence begotten by my country which even makes living here an ordeal for many people. When the troops return, full of tricks they learned in urban warfare (though I speak heresy), let us all know that what goes around comes around.

7:48 pm  
Blogger bootlian said...

If ever I were to support a death penalty, it would be for such crimes as this.

9:09 pm  
Anonymous Rex said...

No more than just another isolated incident. Umm?

10:18 pm  
Blogger Richard said...

This gets worse with every passing minute. An American friend just posted this at a US liberals' political forum I frequent.

** During trial of US troops accused of raping 14 year old girl, US military lawyer blows bubbles while client/soldier licks red lollipop

by John in DC - 8/07/2006 02:10:00 PM

Link 1.

And ...

Link 2.

In a US civilian court, I doubt that a defense attorney would be permitted to sit in court, during testimony, and blow chewing gum bubbles for very long, nor would his client, the defendant, be permitted to lick a red lollipop during that same testimony. This is military justice? This is how our troops and their military lawyers treat a rape case? Are we all sick enough now of what has happened to our country as a result of this war? We are talking a 14 year old girl was allegedly brutalized, and these guys are blowing bubbles and licking lollipops in court? Unbelievable.

A U.S. military court in Baghdad heard graphic testimony on Monday of how three U.S. soldiers took turns raping a 14-year-old Iraqi girl before murdering her and her family....

Special Agent Benjamin Bierce recalled that Barker described to him how they put a couple and their six-year-old daughter into a bedroom of their home, but kept the teenage girl in the living room, where Barker held her hands while Sergeant Paul Cortez raped her or tried to rape her.

Barker then switched positions with Cortez and attempted to rape the girl but said he was not sure if he had done so, Bierce told the hearing.

Barker also told the special agent he heard shots from the bedroom and shortly afterwards Private Steven Green emerged from the room, put down an AK-47 assault rifle and raped the girl while Cortez held her down....

Defense Attorney Captain Jimmie Culp was blowing chewing gum bubbles while Yribe, sitting to his left, began sucking on a red lollipop during the testimony....
After the rape and murders, [Specialist Barker] wrote that he began to grill chicken wings. **

10:53 pm  
Anonymous musings said...

The courtroom behavior is showing a lack of discipline by the judge(s). It looks like two things to me: a therapeutic mentality which says, in effect, that the anxiety level of the accused is so high that he should be allowed some oral gratification like a child; the lawyer is mirroring his behavior by chewing gum - but blowing bubbles is complete cheek. Nobody has to blow bubbles to calm anxiety. The other thing is that any time someone shows this babyish behavior like the defendant, it is a bid for sympathy. The top of the head is shown, with the facial features angled downward, so that the neonate response is triggered in the judge. This is why peasants doff their caps and bow to their lords. It is a sign of weakness and inferiority, and the response one hopes to gain is mercy.

11:45 pm  
Anonymous Griffon said...

Thanks for your insightful comments and I am very sorry to hear you have been similarly brutalised. I am encouraged that you have rejected violence as a result. Bravo!

I know Greene was white. Were the others also?

1:20 am  
Anonymous kiwi said...

Griffon, they're all the same color -- yeller!

Btw, congrats on cracking the links code. I felt the same when I first done it.

1:45 am  
Anonymous Griffon said...

No arguement there, Kiwi! And thanks for the congrats.

I'll try now for technlogical masterpiece #2.

Prof Cole "GETS IT" - with maps!

1:58 am  
Anonymous Griffon said...

I don't really want to start commenting on the fate of that poor girl and her family. If I did I don't know where or when I would stop. I'm sure it's not isolated, either.

Some good news - the Lebanese Govt is backing moves by Scottish Lebanese to Get Blair in court on war crimes charges and from the sound of it may be in with a very good shot (pun intended)

Neil Mackay

4:12 am  
Anonymous Tom V. said...

As a Christian I will say it again and again, even if I will be the only one to cry it into the wilderness:
While that horrible crime, abhors me just as much as you do, I vehemently oppose taking the lives of these young men.

My sentiment is much more alligned to make a massacre in Washington and hang each war criminal leader of America and those who standing behind them on every lamp-post there.

But I know, even that sentiment I have to supress inside me. That's all for now.

4:19 am  
Anonymous Griffon said...

For Rosemary and Tom V-

there's GOLD in them thar hills

And them hills are mighty close to the Kurdish area if not in it

3:47 pm  
Anonymous Griffon said...

More on playing "Lets follow the pipelines"

Israel, Oil and the "planned demolition" of Lebanon

Map of Greater Israeli as submitted by the Word Zionmist Organization soon after the end of WWI

4:34 pm  
Blogger Sophia said...

I have sympathy for animals so I cannot treat Rumsfled, Gonzalez and the people who paved the way for such atrocities as animals, they are cold blood muderers and torturers and they have to be tried !

Griffon, there is a problem with your links. You can check if a link is working properly by clicking on 'preview' the commentary before sending it.

6:34 pm  
Anonymous graniab said...

The details of this case get worse and worse and I was royally pissed off last week to hear the BBC World News commenting that the age of the child victim was unknown. An outright lie! She was a just a child - somehow I don't picture Iraqi children as clones of our barely clothed suburban mall rats!

11:26 pm  
Anonymous Griffon said...

Mike Whitney's must read article-
Israel, Oil and the "planned demolition" of Lebanon

Thanks Sophia

11:27 pm  
Anonymous Griffon said...

Lebanon government joins forces with bid to have Blair tried in Scotland for war crimes

By Neil Mackay

Who knew by reading blogs I'd get an education, eh?!

11:43 pm  
Anonymous Griffon said...

Triple Alliance": The US, Turkey, Israel and the War on Lebanon

by Michel Chossudovsky

From the article-
"The appointment of General Buyukanit as (Turkey's) Chief of Staff has been in the pipeline since December 2005, when he visited Washington for consultations with his US counterparts. At the Pentagon, General Buyukanit met the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Peter Pace, Army Commander General Francis Harvey Under Secretary of Defense for Policy Eric Edelman."

It is worth noting that Eric Edelman is a former Ambassador to Turkey, a Whitehouse insider and has had his name linked with illegal nuclear weapons sales through Turkey and the massive drug business also through Turkey.

It is increasingly looking like Turkey is the key to developments in Middle East. Which way will they go?

The civilian politicians probably want to side with their population and legitimate business interests and side with Europe and not support Israel, if not hinder it in it's ambitions.
The Military, up to it's ears in corruption (and caught by it), will most likely want to follow the bright lights of war with it's attendent power, prestige and money and side with Israel and the US. Unless, of course, Israel looks like it is going down.

I wonder if Turkey is haeded for a military coup? Especially after the Turkish Prime Minister cancelled a $500m contract with Israeli Aircraft Industries.

See "Gorilla's Guides"

12:54 am  
Anonymous Griffon said...

Richard, any insights from your "Man From Turkey"?

12:58 am  
Anonymous Griffon said...

Just when you thought it couldn't getany worse-

New and unkown deadly weapons used by Israeli forces
'direct energy' weapons, chemical and/or biological agents, in a macabre experiment of future warfare
Professor Paola Manduca,

That's it. I'm done!

2:26 am  
Blogger Sophia said...

Thanks for fixing up the links !

2:37 am  
Anonymous Rosemary said...

Griffon, I've been reading the InformationClearingHouse article that you linked .... whoaaaa, if the "Cedar Revolution" in Lebanon was a phony PNAC setup, and the whole business of Lebanon becoming "the democratic gem of the Mediterranean" without an army to defend itself was all planned by the PNAC long ago, all done with the intention of destroying the country's infrastructure whenever it was decided the time was right, then annexing the land in south Lebanon to Israel up to the Litani (maybe including Beirut) and turning the rest of Lebanon into another "Gaza-like" bantustan crowded with refugees, etc., etc. under Israel's control .... that's just too mind-boggling for me to swallow.

I know those who drew up the PNAC plans were on the edge of insanity, but I've got a feeling a few things are missing in this picure.

8:40 am  
Anonymous Rosemary said...

Now I'd better go read the other articles.

8:43 am  
Anonymous Griffon said...

When Sharon withdrew the settlers from Gaza, I thought at the time, "All the easier to bomb them back into the stone age".

He was getting the settlers off the fireing range. Todays shelling of Gaza would not be possible if the settlers were still there.

Psychopaths have NO feeling for other people. Other people have no interests as far as these psychopaths are concerned. This has been established by the psychiatric and psychological professions. Psychopaths (sociopaths in todays terminology) prove this again and again by their deeds.

A President or a Prime Minister can smile and shake hands with soldiers he is sending off to war knowing that they will come back (if they come back) irradiated from depleted uranium; that their genes will be mutated so that their children will have birth defects and their children in turn will have defects and so on down the generations.

This same President or Prime Minister knows that these soldiers will have shortened, painful lives from "serving their country" and these same Presidents and Prime Ministers know these same soldiers do not understand all this.

These Presidents and Prime Ministers then go home, eat dinner with the family and go to sleep.

Nobody wants to think that human beings could do such things especially ones that smile and say all the right things. But they do and that needs to be understood and accepted.

You may be able to tell I'm angry about these types! I know them well.

1:49 pm  
Anonymous Rosemary said...

Grifon, I understand what you are saying about the psychopathic/sociopathic personality. No disagreement about that.

And I fully understand what the advance setup was in Gaza. In fact, maybe the "Gaza solution" was a trial run to test what was being considered for other territories in the future. I can accept that.

It obviously meant controlling information flow plus heavy propaganda, so that the Western world either hardly knew Palestine existed or (if they knew it did exist), it was dismissed as unimportant or irrelevent or "just terrorists."

That may have been possible THEN. But the same is not true NOW.

* Lebanon is better known and has been lauded internationally as a tourist mecca with a large American university which has had 25,000 students enrolled from America.

* The country has been praised internationally as a showpiece for democracy.

* Today we have the Internet which makes it much harder to control information flow. You and I can have an international conversation like this. An independent American radio station can broadcast live an international telephone coversation with someone like Robert Fisk, a genuine reporter who is there on the ground and knows the territory, and so on.

On the other hand I realize:

* Very few Westerners understood the severe restrictions that were set on what the Lebanon government was allowed to do.

* And Westerners were restricted from knowing Hizbollah had anything to do with the government (or even that it was located in Lebanon -- it was thought of as bunch of dangerous and stateless terrorists).

My problem is believing that the creators of the PNAC could have been stupid enough to think they could carry off this stage of their grand plan in this manner and get away with it?

Maybe the Bush Administration and the current leadership of Israel are that stupid, but are they behaving like "loose cannons" perhaps?

I suspect there must be some saner heads somewhere in that "Money Masters" group that (supposedly) really have the final say. Or, have they created Frankenstein's Monster and lost control?

That's the kind of question buzzing in my head.

12:08 am  
Anonymous Griffon said...

I realise I misunderstood your question, Rosemary. To paraphrase it "I can understand the ruthlessness and greed but how do you account for the stupidity, the insanity of actually seemingly working against their long term goals. Are they that stupid?" Correct me if I'm wrong.

Assuming I got it right, the answer is "Yes, they are that stupid". And it's a sort of collective stupidity which I will elaborate on further down.

This lust for power acts on the mind in exactly the same way a drug or alcohol addiction does. It has the same pathology. It brings on a delusion and a narcosis. Narcosis as in "rapture of the Deep" that deep sea divers can get. It can prove fatal because the diver experiences a euphoria and sense of well being and safety when the opposite is the case. They make extremely bad judgements.
There is an attendent grandiosity which if allowed to grow will end up as a godlike superiority. Thinking you're God on a good day is the ultimate delusion. anyone who exploits a fellow human being is indulging in this delusion to some extent and if they continue the prognosis is not good!

Alcoholics and drug addicts make dangerous and deluded decisions regarding themselves and what they desire. Through their delusion they destroy themselves yet they will deny the damage and insist they are in control and know what they are doing. Sound familiar?

The power junkies are just the same. Some medical authorities will say that substance addiction is, in fact, a power trip either to gain a sense of power or to avoid a sense of vulnerability and inferiority or worthlessness. I have personal experience with this.

It's the power trip, in my opinion, that does the damage psychologically in both cases whether a substance is used or the addict engages in exploitation of others.
Drug addicts and power hungry people are unhappy, scheming and driven people. It's like they are driven by the Devil himself.

Look at Cheney and Rumsfeld. These two old men have more money than they can possibly spend in their remaining lifetimes. Yet how do they spend their time? Chasing Money and power. Cheney is risking his life every day with the stress on his heart. But will he stop? No, he can't.

Mad as hatters, the lot of them. As addicts they cannot calculate the long term consequences of their actions because their desires and delusions will not allow them to accept reality. They are in massive denial ALL the time.

I haven't seen the Money Masters DVD but I am very familiar with the subject and history. Generations of bankers have nurtured the desire to control the world. Their credit creating banks gave them massive wealth and power (at the expense of everybody else) but are they satisfied with it? No, they have to take it to the next level whereby they literally own or control everything and everybody on earth.

Mad? Absolutely. But where else do you go with this addiction?

The other problem these people have is that they need to employ like minded people to carry out these plots. Being like minded, they will suffer delusions as well with the added handicap of believing the bullshit that their masters have fed them to exploit them. So they are further out of touch with reality.

Add to this the fact that corrupt people have to promote corrupt people to be safe. Thus they invariably end up promoting incompetence. I often think that the incompetence does more damage than the initial corruption.

The situation we have in the world is inevitable whilst we have hierarchical institutions and people who delegate their resposibility along with their authority to the leaders.

We need to acknowledge fully the trueism that POWER CORRUPTS, period. No one is exempt from it. And design our governments, religions and businesses accordingly.

If this sounds angry, Rosemary, know that it is not directed at you. It's how I feel about exploitation and destruction in he world when it doesn't have tobe like this.

Thanks for reading this far. Thanks for the space, Richard

5:29 am  
Anonymous Rosemary said...

Yes, thanks for the space, Richard.

It was probably good for both Griffin and me to get some of our deeply-held feelings on this subject off our chest.

8:13 am  
Anonymous Jeff said...

Let me get this straight... Saddam and his sons run a whole collection of rape and torture rooms in Iraq for years... really awful ones too, with the cooperation of regular Iraqis. You don't blog about that. Then, a small group of Americans commit a heinous crime (isolated incident and not reflective of Americans as a whole), and you choose to write an entire American-hating manifesto. I'm sickened not only by these vicious crimes, but also by people like you and your readers who insist Americans are evil, meanwhile ignoring real tyrants who regularly oppress and torture their citizens.

8:07 pm  
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