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18 August 2005

China Russia War Games ...

Oh, what lovely little Orwellian label for a war game; Peace Mission 2005.

Over 100, 000 troops from their armies, plus plenty more military pals from the navy and airforce too. Not to mention the awesome, assortment of armaments and hardware involved.

What a jolly, nice thing to do -- send them all sailing on a peace mission, instead of off to war somewhere.

Eh? Ya think?

Well, first off here's the headline and secondly, what's being said by some.

Russia, China in first joint war games.

The exercise signifies closer ties between the two former foes.

China and Russia have began their first joint military exercises boosting cooperation between them and sending a message to the United States about their growing influence.

Eight days of war games between the giant neighbours ......

Hmmm. Very interesting.

As is this.

Russia and China also see common ground in Central Asia, both in trying to ensure political turmoil in Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan does not spill into their borders, and in checking the US presence in the region.
But fear not, friends - apparently none of it's meant to be taken too seriously. See?

The two countries say they seek to boost cooperation"Military cooperation is linked with political and economic cooperation as part of a bigger package," said Robert Karniol, Asia-Pacific editor for Jane's Defence Weekly.

"It's not an adversarial posture."

Oooh, I see, so that's alright then.

Or is it?

"The main target is the United States. Both sides want to improve their position for bargaining in terms of security, politics and economics," said Jin Canrong, a professor of international relations at the People's University of China.
Don't you hate such hopelessly mixed messages from the media? I mean, what the heck is one actually meant think? Are they with us -- or what?

'Real Politik' is a pretty powerful game. And, it's a damned dangerous game.

Incidentally, here's where it's all at.

The exercises are taking place in the Russian Pacific near Vladivostok and in the Chinese coastal province of Shandong and run through 25 August.

And here's where the US State Department's at.

"We would hope that anything that they do is not something that would be disruptive to the current atmosphere in the region," US State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said.

All rather confusing don't you think? Or is it?

Is it a genuine case of nothing see here, folks? So should we all just move along now?

For what it's worth, This Old Brit's take is that this is a truly tough one to call.

At a time like this, about the only thing that does seem certain is that for at least once in his life, George W. Bush was speaking the truth when he claimed he was a uniter, not a divider.

Here's what you might call a 'slap bang, smack in the middle of the road' report, on these particularly perplexing proceedings. It doesn't come the far right [nor from the far West] -- nor does it come from the far left [nor from the far East]. And maybe more to the point - nor does it come from Fox or any Rupert Murdoch rag.

Hit the link then suck it and see -- as the local's like to say, where I live.


Blogger noel adamson said...

After all Bush said "Aahm a U-niter".

He and his puppetmasters seem to be applying what was learned in Vietnam. How to make the the "war" in Iraq last long enough to extract all of the oil there and how to unite people...against us. Political opposition to theocratic fascism in the U.S. is also forming previously unheard of alliances.

10:33 pm  
Blogger Richard said...

*How to make the the "war" in Iraq last long enough to extract all of the oil

Well, you don't expect him to put the ordinary people before his crooked cronies, do you, Noel?

They're not going to let him leave while they're still making millions - in blood money.

12:10 am  
Blogger Elaine Supkis said...

The Chinese are very pissed off at us.

So are the Russians. And a lot of other people we would be better off not pissing off but then, Bush pissed on everyone everywhere, even poor ole Tony B-liar.

12:53 am  
Anonymous Mark Abbott said...

Since their falling-out in 1960-61, the Chinese and the Russians have been most wary of each other ... they even had a hot war going for a few weeks in 1969.

It really takes something for those two to kiss and make up, but damned if that ain't what they're doing! Now, just watch all those T-bills China's holding go right into funding the salvation of the Russian arms industry, and its other prime client's military, too.

And I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find Carlyle somehow in on that gig, too!

Still, if he has any sense at all, Duhbya's really gonna regret the way he's treated these big cats, who're now flexing some muscle. It certainly oughta give Unka Dick some sweaty, sleepless nights ... as if Rove weren't already doing so!

Karma IS a bitch.

2:21 am  
Blogger St!ff M!ttens said...

As much as I hate to sound like an alarmist ( ;-} ), I find the geography of this a little too convenient to be completely coincidental. If I were in North Korea or Taiwan right now, I'd be watching the US posture towards Iran with increasingly sweaty palms.

5:50 am  
Blogger St!ff M!ttens said...

Oops. I meant South Korea,

6:00 am  
Blogger JulieDee said...

You and I both mittens.... you and I both. I wonder what South Korean & Taiwanese real-estate markets look like right now? Bet it's a buyers market for sure!

6:25 am  
Blogger -simpchimp said...

"We would hope that anything that they do is not something that would be disruptive to the current atmosphere in the region," US State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said.

Is it just me, or did anyone else laugh out loud reading this snippet?

3:23 pm  
Blogger -simpchimp said...

An ironic laugh, I should add.

3:23 pm  
Blogger Richard said...

Well, I think this is one of those times I can respond to everyone, in one single posting.

I couldn't agree more, with you all.

3:38 pm  
Anonymous Rosemary said...

These joint exercises have been planned for several months, (and announced). So that in itself, is not a surprise. The intervening months have contained a lot of diplomatic maneuvering all over the globe, especially by China.

Did I see a mention of 100,000 personnel involved? Presumably, that's mostly naval. That is surely a drop in the bucket compared to China's likely number of ground troops. Where are they?

Do you think this might be a coverup for another mobilization on a different border?

Just asking.

3:38 pm  
Blogger Richard said...

You're not alone in wondering, Rosemary.

Whatever - I think the fact that these two, once mortal enemies, now seem to be the best of mates is either very good news or vary bad news - depending on where one lives.

3:48 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

stop whining you english twit. most of my family was killed in dresden, another innocent city

6:52 am  
Blogger JulieDee said...

Do you think your losses are greater than Richard's you anonymous coward?

5:57 pm  

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