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01 August 2005

Anglo American Assessments ...

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Since the sudden and sad demise of the uncrowned supersonic Queen of the Atlantic, Concord - the distance between the UK and US has, relatively speaking, doubled.

And, since the BushBlair blood-brother's double act first took to the international stage, two once seemingly inseparable sets of citizens' and their special relationship, seem to have suffered somewhat similarly.

But while both nations' governing politicians are perfectly happy to publicly pat each other's backs, their carefully fabricated falsehoods so interminably trotted out as truths, could hardly be more misleading. The majority of ordinary British people were, from the outset, strongly against the illegal invasion and subsequent occupation of Iraq.

More than two million men, women and children bore witness to the fact when they marched in solidarity through the streets of their capital city. Hundreds of thousands of others did likewise in different British cities -- just as many millions more did -- globally.

But their peaceful protestations went unheard; their wishes were ignored. The sickening and self serving interests of their respective rulers [and in turn, their own corporate kings] came first. It was oil-money and military industrial complex-money which mattered most -- so crony conglomorate cartels' profits took precedence over people -- yet again.

With the complicit connivance of a handful of like minded, top level looters - such as Australia's immoral midget of a little Hitler, John Howard - the nightmare of all normal human beings, began. After the diabolical dress rehearsal in Afghanistan, the stage was set for the shameful big- show. The play would go on. Act one, scene one - the bombing of Baghdad.

Ever since, things have rapidly gone down hill. To hell in a handbasket, to coin a phrase.

So it was with some considerable interest that today I began reading one particularly noteworthy person's point of view; Harold Evans, one time editor of The [London] Times. Here's his assessment of Anglo American relationships both past and present. I have to say though, that Mr Evans is much more diplomatic than This Old Brit could ever hope [or want] to be.

I had many encounters on my American journey where subtly different cultural conventions - we're famously divided by a common language - masked the great good feelings Americans had for Britain.

As Robert Benchley once noted they liked to call England the mother country even when they were from Transylvania. But now it seems the warm good feelings are not reciprocated as much as they used to be.
This from a man who, having spent some considerable time living and working stateside, understands America[ns] much better than most none-Americans do.

Indeed, I have it on good authority that the special relationship between Britain and America is on life support. Pollsters at the reputable Pew Research centre in Washington told us this June that for the first time only a bare majority of their British cousins approve of the United States.

I've no doubt myself that much of the international animosity for America arises from resentment of a president whose original idea of diplomacy was to shake hands with himself.
Evans' extremely articulate [as always] assessment of the prevailing Anglo American 'position' is well worth reading in it's entirety. Indeed, This Old Brit recommends it - rather strongly.

Here's your final teaser for today.

America did not regress as I feared it would in the 50s. It renewed the promise of the American dream to its minorities, and a measure of well-being to millions through successive traumas, through the ill-judged war in Vietnam, through the Watergate corruptions, through the civil rights struggles and I think it will find its way again I think through all the travails of terrorism.

My guess is that America and Britain will come to speak a common language again.
Let us hope with all our hearts that Harold turns out to be right. Because, in terms of regular Brits' trans-Atlantic tensions -- you can take it from This Old Brit that time is tight -- for both Bush and Blair.

Hit the link to the entire article -- complete with numerous BBC readers' follow up comments.


Anonymous lukery said...

richard, as an australian, i must take umbrage at this sentence: "Australia's immoral midget of a little Hitler, John Howard". in defense of our prime minister, i dont think that hitler was very tall either.

1:03 pm  
Blogger Elaine Supkis said...

Nor was Napoleon. And he wasn't even all that French, either. "Lion of Naples" isn't exactly Jacque!

The "rift" between England and America is fake. The rift is really between the rulers and the ruled. Queen Elizabeth is VERY happy with her relations with the rulers of America, they make oodles of money on war and destruction.

As usual.

1:20 pm  
Blogger Richard said...

lukery, I'm afraid I have to place Howard firmly in the same category as Bush & Blair -- the dictatorial category.

1:42 pm  
Blogger Richard said...

Elaine, I know the elite get on well together but, because the ordinary Brits can't 'get' to them, the growing anger & frustrations over here are increasingly manifesting themselves as a collective 'laying of blame' for the worsening situation[s] on the 'American' way - rightly or wrongly.

Remember that Blair is seen as the poodle, and even though he's [rightly] ridiculed for this - his master is viewed as the root of our increasingly detoriorating 'situation'.

It's rather like when people say, of unruly kids " I blame the parents." As I say, rightly or wrongly -- nonetheless, it's the general [growing] feeling here.

1:52 pm  
Blogger JulieDee said...

I agree with you 100% Richard. And ugly as it is with some new I got this morning it will just get worse.

"LONG-RUNNING disputes between UK and American intelligence and security services over intelligence in the war on terror rose to the surface last week with US sources accusing the British of blocking the capture of a key member of the al-Qaeda team that carried out the London bombings.

The claims followed leaks of British police photographs, including a nail bomb found in the trunk of a bomber's car, passed to the US-based ABC News, apparently by a member of the US team sent to London to assist the investigation.

US sources named the man alleged to be suspected by British officials of playing a key role in the London bombings as Haroon Rashid Aswat, 32, from Dewsbury, West Yorkshire. He was arrested in Zambia last week.

The US authorities tried to remove him from South Africa in a process known as ìextraordinary rendition,î which bypasses the extradition process and normally leads to suspects being imprisoned at Guantanamo, but UK officials blocked their attempts on the basis that he was a British citizen.

The allegations, leaked to American newspapers, seemed designed to show the UK authorities in a bad light. Both the British and US authorities wanted to talk to Aswat, who is of Indian descent and is a close associate of the radical Muslim cleric Abu Hamza al-Mazri.

The US interest stems from allegations that he helped set up a terrorist training camp at Bly in Oregon, traveling to the camp where, according to US officials, he is alleged to have ìmet potential candidates for jihad training.î

British officials insisted that although they did want to question Aswat over his alleged links to al-Qaeda, they did not believe he played a role in the London bombings. Claims of telephone calls with the bombers appeared to have originated from inaccurate reports in the British media, they said.

Their concerns were over the legal process. If the extraordinary rendition had taken place it was highly unlikely that he could have been prosecuted in the British courts. They wanted him arrested legally; he was."

from an exclusive article on the Raw Story website this morning @

I heartily suggest everyone read it. It does not bode well for where our future intelegence operations (Bush has intelegence???) will be going from here.

Also You might want to take a gander at the latest entry at the 1/2 Kracked Kup. My good friend Dr. Bob Halstrom has been gracious enough to permit me to post a column he's written and it is a DEFINATE must read! you can find it at as always!

4:07 pm  
Blogger Elaine Supkis said...

Sort of like the Italians and Germans squabbling with each other while they were the Axis.

4:34 pm  
Blogger Richard said...

Thanks, Julie, I'll call in later and read both

4:46 pm  
Blogger Richard said...

Elaine, I was thinking more along the lines of the 'squabble' between the 'true patriot' Italians and their leader/duce, Mussolini -- and how it was eventually 'settled'. They certainly made HIM pay a proper price for the bloody mess he dragged his country's people into.

5:48 pm  
Blogger Richard said...

BTW, announced today -- Blair's had enough.

Maybe he read yesterday's Old Brit, and took the hint to get out while the going was still good.

Heh. ;^)

5:50 pm  
Blogger JulieDee said...

More like the French and the Italians during WWI Elaine. Neither one really had their act together and both blamed the other for their failings.

Richard, obviously Bush would be il Duce but I just don't see Blair organizing a lynch mob to go after HIM! When you get over to the 1/2 Kracked Kup make sure you leave a comment or drop him an email (his addy is there) letting Dr.Bob know how you feel about his work! I'm trying to talk him into starting a blog... problem is, till this morning he had never heard of one!

10:04 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look at this.

World turning its back on Brand America By Kevin Allison in New York

Financial Times - Home UK section Published: August 1 2005 03:00 | Last updated: August 1 2005 03:00

The US is increasingly viewed as a "culture-free zone" inhabited by arrogant and unfriendly people, according to study of 25 countries' brand reputations.

The findings, published online today, will add to concerns that anti-Americanism is hurting companies whose products are considered to be distinctly "American".

The Anholt-GMI Nation Brands Index found that although US foreign policy remained a key driver of hostility, dissatisfaction with the world's sole superpower might run deeper.

"The US is still recognised as a leading place to do business, the home of desirable brands and popular culture," said Simon Anholt, author of the survey. "But its governance, its cultural heritage and its people are no longer widely respected or admired by the world."

Keith Reinhard, president of Business for Diplomatic Action, a group of business leaders dedicated to improving the US's image overseas, said help from the private sector was needed to repair Brand America.

"Right now the US government is not a credible messenger," said Mr Reinhard,

To read it in full ... go here

12:51 am  
Anonymous lukery said...

richard, i think you missed the irony in my original comment (or i missed yours) - i just *had* to clarify the record - id *hate* to be seen as a suppporter of howard.

i agree, howard deserves to stand with the other two lying war criminals

2:25 am  
Blogger Richard said...

Julie, Blair ain't got the balls.

I see him as our Duce and Bush as yours.

Incidentally, much more recently the Rumanians rid themselves of a similar 'shit' - in a similar sort of Italian way.

11:55 am  
Blogger Richard said...


Duh! Sorry mate, I must be getting slower on the uptake -- heh -- blame it on my age. ;^)

11:57 am  
Blogger JulieDee said...

So many Duces so little... aw forget about it! Now I'm cornfuzzeling myself! Then again when you take the amount of morphine I take on any given day it's not hard to corfuzzelmate yerself! Sheesh!

Glad you enjoyed Bob's piece by the way! And just think, he does that every week in the NEWSPAPER out here in redneck land! Yikes!

10:32 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Back off Brit

9:32 pm  
Blogger Richard said...

anonymous -- up yours! OK?

1:17 am  
Anonymous lukery said...

anonymous - Back Off Brits

12:42 pm  
Blogger Richard said...

Cheers, lukery!

2:33 pm  
Anonymous Ken said...

so far at least the Canadians haven't joined the axis of genocide

10:41 pm  
Blogger JulieDee said...

Ever notice how the big brave boys who like to come in and shove people around and tell them to "back off" are always too cowardly to show their name? They always do it from anonymity...

I have this picture of this balding 30 year old guy with a really bad comb-over hunched over his computer, still living in his mother's basement sucking courage out of a can of half flat lager. But I'm probably being far too kind...

5:41 pm  

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