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19 April 2006

Russia / China Alliance Warmly Welcomes Iran ...

Boom! Boom! Boom!
Well, well, well!
Whadaya know?

Who'da thunk it?

It it appears that thanks to his incessant insistence that Iran's in line for more even war waged from Washington, el Pretzeldente may just have hit that infamous 'trifecta' again.

But not one he ever expected. Since in spite of many intelligent & insightful individuals predictions -- the creep-in-chief chose not to take any of them into account. And modesty definitely doesn't forbid This Old Brit from shouting out loud, that he was always found to be at the fore of all such sensible 'soothsayers'.

Have you heard about this from the Asian Times?

Greater China

Apr 18, 2006

China, Russia welcome Iran into the foldBy M K Bhadrakumar The Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), which maintained it had no plans for expansion, is now changing course.

Mongolia, Iran, India and Pakistan, which previously had observer status, will become full members. SCO's decision to welcome Iran into its fold constitutes a political statement.

Conceivably, SCO would now proceed to adopt a common position on the Iran nuclear issue at its summit meeting June 15.

Didn't any of the dickheads like Donald, Dickie and George realise that alliances are always arranged whenever such blatant bullying as Bushco's been dishing out for the last few years, ferments strong foreign feelings in favour of forming mutual interest, alliances ? In their own national interests? For their own future protection?

Of course they didn't -- because the blinkered bunch of bloody dimwits have been blighted by one track minds, from day one. One track minds, just as as all too often, other aspiring empire-architects similarly suffer from.

And This Old Brit chose the word suffer, with care.

Get a good gander at this snip.

Visiting Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mohammadi told Itar-TASS in Moscow that the membership expansion "could make the world more fair".

And he spoke of building an Iran-Russia "gas-and-oil arc" by coordinating their activities as energy producing countries.

Mohammadi also touched on Iran's intention to raise the issue of his country's nuclear program and its expectations of securing SCO support.

And how does this sound for an excellent example of superbly, subtle understatement.

The timing of the SCO decision appears to be significant.

( Significant, eh? Ha. No shit, Sherlock? )

( Then there's this too. )

Meanwhile, Washington's relations with Tashkent (Uzbekistan) remain in a state of deep chill. The US attempt to "isolate" President Islam Karimov is not working.

(Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh is visiting Tashkent on April 25.) Again, Tajikistan relies heavily on Russia's support. In Kyrgyzstan, despite covert US attempts to create dissensions within the regime, President Burmanbek Bakiyev's alliance with Prime Minister Felix Kulov (which enjoys Russia's backing) is holding.

The Central Asians have also displayed a lack of interest in the idea of "Greater Central Asia". This became apparent during the conference sponsored by Washington recently in Kabul focusing on the theme.

The SCO's enlargement move, in this regional context, would frustrate the entire US strategy.

Now, quickly crossing the continents, what about coupling all the above up with what follows? Which is the recently reported (in the UK press) -- almost revolutionary-like -- revelation regarding an at least semi-siesmic shift in Bush's buddy Blair's previously oft stated, solidarity stance?

Blair refuses to back Iran strike,


TONY Blair has told George Bush that Britain cannot offer military support to any strike on Iran, regardless of whether the move wins the backing of the international community, government sources claimed yesterday.

Amid increasing tension over Tehran's attempts to develop a military nuclear capacity, the Prime Minister has laid bare the limits of his support for President Bush, who is believed to be considering an assault on Iran, Foreign Office sources revealed.
I wonder how that grabs George the great-leader?

Or this?.

While the sense of crisis over Iran has been escalated by the fiery rhetoric between Tehran and the West - particularly Washington - many within the British government are now convinced that the impasse can be resolved by repeating the same sort of painstaking diplomatic activity that returned Libya to the international fold.

The approach contrasts sharply with the strategy employed during the run-up to the war in Iraq, when ministers repeatedly issued grim warnings to Saddam Hussein over the consequences of not falling in line with their demands.

"The only long-term solution to Iran's problems is democracy," said Alex Bigham, co-author of the FPC report. "But it cannot be dictated, Iraq-style, or it will backfire.

Iran may seem superficially like Iraq but we need to treat Iran more like Libya. Diplomatic engagement must be allowed to run its course. There need to be bigger carrots as well as bigger sticks."

However, the conciliatory language was not reflected in the approach from Washington, where senior figures in the Bush administration remain keen to stress the danger of Tehran's intentions.

The plot thickens, eh?

Could the combined common sense of the best of brains of several ( substantial ) countries now be contemplating what could quite reasonably be classed as a kind of counter-coup, against the creepy US neo-con crew, currently completely cocking up everything they touch?

So, read the pair of pieces which This Old Brit's just pointed out. Then make your own mind up.

Could the way the wind's now begun blowing be any plainer? And I do mean, ANY plainer.

Iran, Russia, China alliance.

Blair's buggering off of Bush.


Blogger Phyl said...

Ho.lee. Cow!

This is what Howard Dean talked about, way before the last election. He described how, in the past, when an empire was too much of a bully there was an "encircling" action by the states around that empire, starting to deal with each other and ally with each other, and slowly begin to isolate the bully at the centre of the empire.

I've been seeing signs of that starting to happen, but this is the clearest sign. It's about time, frankly.

9:30 pm  
Blogger markfromireland said...

Asia Times should be required reading for everyone.

9:45 pm  
Anonymous Tom said...

Wow! Finally I'm in.

The inclusion of Iran into the SCO is quite important, even if the organisation is not officialy a military alliance. (Chinese are a 'bit more subtle for that).

The timing of it, is not negligible either. It has happened, in time of escalating pressure, from Washinton on Teheran.

What it signals is, that the line in the sand has been drawn and Teheran will not be left alone, to be a victim by a US/UK/Israel agression.

This message is so laud and clear, that only the blind and the deaf miss it.

10:57 pm  
Blogger Richard said...

Hi Phyl,

Glad to see you. You've been hiding your light for too long.

I hadn't realised Dene made something of that. Of course, that's the way MSM wanted it, isn't it? Ignore or ridicule, or both.

I've been going on about this at Tapa, so often and for so long, that I think I must have bored many near half to death.

(Hope things are going okay, btw?)


Yep. Shouldn't it, just?!


You are so right. Unfortunately, there are still many, many blind who WILL not see - and deaf who WILL not hear.

AS for your frustration re: posting, I 'd like to know what the problem is so I can try to fix it. I already turned off the 'code-word' thingee, quite some time ago, and so can't figure out what's up.

11:58 pm  
Anonymous Tom said...

Thanks Richard.

It must have been those tough letter codes, specially after drinking half a bottle...
Anyway, it is solved to the degree that I am confident that I can type in 'Tom' even in pretty extreme circumstances.

Thanks again1

12:53 am  
Blogger Wisewebwoman said...

There's a sort of grim satisfaction to all of this, right? So bloody predictable to anyone with more than a double-digit IQ. I have predicted a stronger European Alliance also and wish to see Canada where I live, allied with Europe more, thus isolating the thugs even further. But now we've got BushBaby Harper which has us all alarmed but we do have the brakes of a parliamentary system, oh wait, he's holding sessions behind closed doors now and God blessing us and......gulp.....having our soldiers in Afghanistan killed by "friendly fire".....

5:33 am  
Anonymous Griffon said...

Nation States accept that there will be argy bargy going on all the time i.e. jockeying for position through skirmishes and small wars. Even after WW11, the dominant business factions in Japan and Germany were left in tact. At that level of society, war is generally accepted as a game (bit sad about the civilians, though. But as Rummy says, "Stuff happens"!). It is called, afterall, "The Great Game" is it not.

What's changed now, IMHO, is that the US has tossed out "the rule book" in more ways than one and is doing an endrun for total world domination. This makes the US EVERYBODY'S enemy and for real, not just posturing for the home audience. The US is seen (again IMHO) as threatening the elites of every country in the world with the exception of those who have already capitulated - Britain, Australia and Canada.
Iran is "Last Chance Hotel" for everybody and it's survival that is at stake not relative position.

AS for Bliar telling Bush it's not on, Richard, I think more weight needs to be given to the fact that the information is coming from unidentified sources who could well be "leaking" it on orders.

I think it was the Observer that first printed it. Are they tied up with the Telegraph (the MI5/6 megaphone)? If so, I would take it as bullshit. It could be a ruse to dampen down the protests so as not to mobilize the general population.

I could well be totally wrong but I think that angle is worth considering.

9:16 am  
Anonymous Griffon said...

Tomdispatch has a good article up -

He somtimes has Chalmers Johnson write articles on China. I hope he does so again soon.

After the US attacked Iraq, the price of steel doubled in a few months. China was buying up everything not already committed - scrap, anything it could get it's hands on. And it signed a billion dollar deal for more iron ore with Australia.

My guess is all this steel wasn't to make more toasters and microwaves.

9:52 am  
Anonymous Rex said...

Phew! Almost too much to take in at one sitting. So many 'possibilities', but isn't the Observer on of the 'good guys'? Isn't it more or less the Sunday edition of the Guardian?

10:09 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Phew's the word! I'm betting that as this alliance grows and becomes more widely known, more than a few other countries will be lining up to join. There as soooooo many that are soooooooooo fed up with the USA. And with good reason.

7:55 pm  
Blogger Gert said...


Great piece.

I do reserve a little judgement on the Blair issue, although it would be great to see the Anglo-American "axis of stupidity" take a serious blow. Wait and see...

8:00 pm  
Blogger Phyl said...

Wisewebwoman, I so agree! I've been wishing for a long time that Canada would start selling to Europe and China and India, and cut as much of its trade as possible with the U.S.

I think the Harper crowd will horrify Canadians in a little while, enough to boot them out. But what I actually expect, in the not-too-distant future, is an American invasion.

8:42 pm  
Blogger Sophia said...

Thanks Richard for this post (Gert forwarded me the link).
Two comments:
1) The SCO is a kind of a prerun for an asian alliance which is due now. Some anti-american japanese were furious over Koisumi missing the opportunity to lead such an alliance of asian countries because he is too close to Bush. Now China is having the US on an economic leash and starting to lead the world piece by piece (chinese are far more smart than wanting to have the whole cake in one gulp like the US). I predict China will extend this alliance to the oil rich countries and so to the middle east. This will not be an easy step to do but we need a balance of power here and if it is China than China is welcome.

2) I am skeptical over the Blair-Bush divergence. Blair has always played this game appearing like the moderate guy while going his own extreme way. Do you remember what was he telling the world in the wake of the Iraqi invasion ? Blair was telling the world that now that Iraq will be democratized and ridden from its dictator, it was time to bring justice to the Palestinians. He did not hold to his promise, worse, everything he did was along Bush's policy in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Now he is telling the world that he won't support the US to strike Iran. This is a euphemism. The US does not need Blair to strike Iran. It will need him for ground troops and 'stabilization'. You know, the kind of 'stabilization' they are doing in Iraq. I don't believe Blair, he is deceitful and he is a liar !

10:16 pm  
Anonymous Rosemary said...

Wow, Richard! It seems like everything is beginning to fall into place much like two 'someones' I know (smile) predicted well over a year ago!

Having learned it doesn't hurt to be a contrarian, I'm looking (in vain so far) for the flaws in the argument.

12:11 am  
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1:09 am  
Blogger Richard said...

Apologies for late response. Several reasons - especially a sweetie called Sophie and attending grandfatherly responsibilities, duties, etc - if you catch my drift.

But better late than never. Eh?

Well, it has to be said - yet again - the knowlege, insight, links, input and sheer civility shown by our posters, is surely second to none. And it's as absolutely appreciated as ever - not to mention how important a 'record' for future reference[s] all this is becoming.

Also, a special warm welcome and thanks to our new posters. We hope you stay with us and continue to contribute. Truly, we do.

5:22 pm  
Blogger Richard said...

Argh! What a wally I am sometimes. I should have mentioned that special thanks are due to griffon for giving me the original heads-up on the changing SCO.

5:52 pm  
Anonymous Tom said...

I'm sure there is some significance to it, although we probably won't know the details, that Chinese President Hu Jingtao, is visiting Washington.

Does he try to reason with his host?

We will see, if there is any relaxation in American attitudes such as, toning down of anti-Iranian propaganda, will result.

6:01 pm  
Blogger Gentleman-hobbs said...

All roads led to Rome all capital flows lead to Washington (plus the Uk hanging on the coat tails like the runt of the litter). Russia having been ripped off by its Oligarths (sponsored by the lush Yeltsin) and China are historically opposed to them . Thus Iran becomes an interesting football. I know China well, I was in Shenzhen as recently as Mid Feb, they embrace the market economy but in China's normal way. Carefuly and for the benifit of 1.4 billion. Although the issues in the square et al embarress all (china included) there are very few embittered chinese, family planning apart. They have enjoyed relative peace for thousands of years

6:48 pm  
Anonymous Griffon said...

Thanks for the nod, Richard.
John Dean is betting on an "October Surprise" before the US elections later this year and his most probable scenario is an attack on Iran. He gives reasons :-

Gentleman-hobbs, thanks for the interesting observations. When China some years ago embraced the global economy (in it's own way, as you say), it created an international currency for trade that was quite separate from it's domestic currency.
Do you know if this is still the case?

Richard, Sophie certainly is a cutey.

11:31 am  
Anonymous Griffon said...

"If it comes to a shooting war ...(with China)
By Victor N Corpus"

"Victor N Corpus is a retired brigadier general. He has a master's degree in public administration from the Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University. His major assignment while serving in the armed forces of the Philippines was as chief of the intelligence service."

Sobering reading to say the least.

to read more about the deadly Sunburn/Moskit missiles and what Iran can do with them, go here:-

And for a picture of one of these missiles-

1:02 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey! Have you all seen this today?

Russia & Iran have done a deal to do the Iranian nuclear work -- on Russian soil.

10:53 pm  
Blogger Richard said...

Sheesh. No sooner do I 'catch up' than more erudite remarks appear - nay, errupt even.

Seriously, thanks again for ALL the input. And another warm welcome. to the newest of the new. It's good to have you all here.

1:01 pm  
Blogger Tate said...

Richard, I hope you are right about Blair, many on HuffPo were also cynical about BLiar's honesty. I have been encouraged by the mutiny of the Generals and am glad for the links above, esp. the brigadier general.

Am off to read more about what the Generals are doing to try to save us from the Bush Regime.

8:10 pm  
Anonymous Sky-Ho said...


Imagine all the good China/Russia brings to themselves mostly because of US petulance, driving men of power together in order to protect themselves from the local bully, the US.

Just sit back, be diplomatic (what a vision for the Bushitas) and all good things will come to you.

Sometimes I think that a world court followed by a US hanging of these monsters *might* help restore US cred. Then again, such US assets are pretty far down the drain.

2:43 am  
Blogger Richard said...

Looks like China & Iran are upping the anti.

*No one can prevent cooperation between Iran and China: envoy

Tehran Times Economic Desk *

TEHRAN – Chinese Ambassador to Tehran Lio G. Tan has said that the oil and gas deal between Iran and China has been thoroughly studied by experts and is ready to be signed.

The Chinese ambassador was clearly referring to an energy agreement between Tehran and Beijing which is worth over 100 billion dollars.

“No country can prevent the deal,” the ambassador told the Mehr News Agency correspondent in Tehran last week.

Read the rest of this report, right here.

11:52 pm  
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