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07 March 2007

Iran, Israel And America: How The Whole World Sees Them ...

Here's a small snip from a story everyone should see.

BBC survey: Israel 'least popular' nation

By The Associated Press -- London

Israel, Iran and the United States are the countries with the most negative image in a globe-spanning survey of attitudes toward 12 major nations.

Canada and Japan came out best in the poll, released today.

That's straight from Haaretz, today.

Shocked? Surprised?

You shouldn't be.

See some more from the same story.

Canada had the most positive rating in the survey of 28,389 people in 27 countries, with 54 percent viewing it positively and 14 percent negatively. It was followed by Japan and France.

Respondents were also asked their views of the 25-member European Union; 53 percent saw it as positive and 19 percent as negative.
Then there's this.

Countries that relate to the world primarily through soft power, like France and Japan and the EU in general, tend to be viewed positively,
We'd say that in any seriously civilised, 21st century society - such a sensible summary shouldn't surprise anyone.

Should be sort of self evident, eh?

Here's the Haaretz report.

And again via Ynet.



Anonymous kiwi said...

The only thing that surprises me is that someone as msm as the BBC has finally had to the balls to come right out in the open with this.

Anyone who's head's not been up their a*rse for years has know this for god knows how long.

11:51 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey brit, you should change you name from old to ancient

it' time to play catch up

the world has changed

and you all have been left behind

11:55 am  
Anonymous Charles said...

Uh, oh.

Ready for the flack, Richard? You know, the anti-American, anti Israel/semite stuff, etc?

Bet there's not much said about being anti-Iran though.

2:08 pm  
Blogger bootlian said...

It's the world that's out of step -- with the 'usual suspects' -- yet again!


4:00 pm  
Anonymous Tom V said...

Well, it's mightily encouraging to see the old proverb working, in all its glory.
Namely, the one which says:

"You can fool some of the people some of the time, or even all the people some of the time, but you can never fool all the people, all the time."

Before I go any further, let me say that the significance of this, is no small matter, although I'm sure there will be attempts to belittle the results now, as part of some 'damage control' efforts.

Why no small matter? Because if it would be a matter of small importance, we wouldn't have the spectacle, of a whole multibillion dollars worth of PR and propaganda apparatus in Zionist Jewish hands and/or control, working and existing like one of the mythical monster, the multiheaded hydra, to doctrinate, persuade or even brainwash people by deception, omission and outright lies, to accomplish their paymasters' goal.

The methods used, are supposedly very sophisticated and widely varied. Indeed, ideally they are tailor-made to the designated audience, and they are supposedly scientificaly calibrated. They are ranging from lofty, substantial and confusingly detaily presentations for educated audiences in the high end, to the endless repetitions of a few simple slogans, (like modern day mantra), for the unwashed masses, to the low end. The latter by 24 hrs. TV, which conveniently switches the viewers' braincells to zombie like alpha waves, for the duration of TV viewing. (Dr. Goebbels famously salivated over that aspect of television, then still in experimental phase.)

By now the reader may realise one significant difference among these players: The controlers of the US/Israeli governments have this awesome apparatus of propaganda and PR machine with Global reach under their rule, while Iran doesn't have such thing. Indeed, Iran suffers from the detrimental effects of the concentrated propaganda attacks, from the above described mechanism.

This handy little survey shows, that the mighty lie machine might succeed on occasion, to besmirch countries and adversaries to a limited degree, but it has disasterously failed to whitewash in the public's mind, the famed pair of particularly notorious and dangerous rogue nations, known as US and Israel.

6:16 pm  
Anonymous USA said...

YOUR problem mister. We could care less what you think.

6:17 pm  
Anonymous Doug Watt said...

Well we'd better start caring what the world thinks. We're far from self sufficient as a nation. We depend on the rest of the world for the very things that used to make us one of the superpowers.

With out their support, the government will collapse financially, if you weren't already aware of that.

12:45 am  
Blogger Moon Rattled said...

This makes me proud to be a Soviet Canuckistanian (Pat Buchanan's word for Canadian). Still, our elected neoconservative PM, Stephen Harper, has a history of supporting Bush. Before he got elected he ranted and raved against the country for not supporting the Iraq war. Now that he's in and must contend with an electorate that overwhelmingly does not like Bush or neoconservatives, he's been forced to tone it down. Like all fundamentalists whose religion is small (nil) gov't and privatization, Harper is not to be trusted.

7:48 am  
Anonymous hiphop said...

hey usa,

you're living proof that this poll is pretty accurate

you and your attitude is one of the reasons we're so highly thought of right now ..... not!

11:44 am  
Anonymous alex said...

To add insult to injury so many Americans are well aware of exactly what attrocities they have commited, have allowed outside infiltrators to commit and actually instigated in many cases. The latter two thinbgs being there premeditated plan to 'prove their point' that they need to remain there.

Sadly, for all their big talk they are (in so many instances) NOT big enough to admit what a night,are they've brought about. And definitely, the vast majority are NOT big enough to apologise ~ nor will they ever be.

And they still have the gall to ask that stupid question ~ why do they hate us? Are they realy so stupid? Even my 15 year old daughter could tell them why. But would they even listen, let alone accept the so obvious answer[s].

To sum up: big cars, big buildings, big bellies, big mouths but veritable pigmies as far as culture, conscience and genuine civilisation is concerned.

How many are even BIG or BRAVE enough to tackle their own corrupt leaders\\politicians?

P.S. I do know that there are exceptions - ALL Americans are not the same - just far too many are.

7:59 am  
Anonymous denk said...

in most survey done in recent years, usa consistently top the unfavourable naton list. what has iran done to deserve this "honour" now, ? it just goes to show the awesome power of the western [mostly amerikkan] propaganda machine, which has been mounting a relentless campaign of smear and disinformation against iran.
and if we believe in the dictum that one is judged by the companies he keep, how did japan, an avid member of the "axis of good" which includes the us and israel, scores so positively?
ok, so i heard that japan hasnt done any aggression since wwii, but thats due to article 9 of the post war constitution, which forbade remilitarism in japan. for year the hawks in japan have been rearing to discard this shackle and rearm japan to its former "greatness". with us goading in the background and using the bogeyman of nk and china, their wildest dream has come true. japan now boast the world's second or third most modern military, its reputed to be able to turn nuclear in short notice if it wants to, it sent troops to shore up uncle sham's iraq occupation even though more than 70% of japanese opposed, it has territory dispute with china, korea and russia.
its much vaunted "soft power" mostly consist of largese to counties like nepal, outer mongolia etc, apparently intended to dilute china's influence in its own backyard, i wouldnt be surprised if the chinese view this as a ploy which compliments uncle sham's more blatant strategy to ring china with us bases. ironically, this "soft" approach of japanese policy doesnt seem to extend to china, its worst victim of wwii. when china proposed a joint development of the diaoyu isle pending future resolution of its sovereinty issue, japan responded by sending warships to impose a cordon off the isle and built structures like light house on it, apparently to legitimate its claim by fact acommpli.
then there's the problem of taiwan, lest we forget, it was japan that took taiwan at gun point in 1898, yet now the japs has the gall to tell the chinese that under the us japan defence pact, taiwan is under its protection !!!
if this is japan's way of saying sorry to china then there will never be reconciliation between the two countries. yet every time china respond to yet another bout of japanese provocation, all we hear from the west [especially the yanks] is that the chinese are "harping on history" and trying to milk japan's non existent"guilt complex" for more economic gains. [sic]
talk about blaming the victims....

9:59 am  
Anonymous denk said...

yanks take heart, usa is very hot with one quarter of mankind..........and i am not tallking about china.
whereas in many "friendly" countries only the ruling class are in thrall with uncle sham, the masses are mostly hostile, but in india, the affection with amerikka is genuine and best of all, grassroot level.
"We have great admiration for U.S. power and want our country to replicate it, not oppose it". How many of America's European allies share such sentiments?"
hell, india even has its own version of amerikka's five year plan to "do" seven countries.
no wonder i keep hearing from yanks and indians how they share a lot of common values and are natural partners to stem this rising yellow peril,

3:11 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


READ THE FOLLOWING PASSAGES FROM THE BIBLE AS IT HAS IMPLICATIONS ON THE WAR AGAINST TERROR/ISLAM and the claim of Israel that god gave them the land. If the child is an infant than the Judeo-Christian version becomes null and void and we are wasting our time and resources i.e. we could save trillions of dollars and create a more peaceful world rather than fighting against Islam the religion of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them all).


Please note this is not a competition between faiths but an attempt to decipher fact from fiction.

Genesis 21:14 Contemporary English version se below link;&version=46;

Early the next morning Abraham gave Hagar an animal skin full of water and some bread. Then he put the boy on her shoulder and sent them away.

And Hagar bore Abram a son; and Abram called the name of his son, whom Hagar bore, Ish’mael. Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore Ish’mael to Abram.

Abraham was a hundred years old when his son Isaac was born to him.

At Genesis 22 Abraham had only 2 sons others came later. The Quran mentions that it was Ishmael that was sacrificed hence the reference in genesis 22:2 your only son can only mean someone has substituted Ishmael names for Isaac!!

NOT ROMAN NUMERALS (I, II, III,IV,V,VI,VII,VIII,IX,X) NB no concept of zero in roman numerals.

100 years old – 86 years old = 14 ADD 3 YEARS FOR ISSAC’S WEANING


Carefully read several times the above passage and then tell me the mental picture you get between the mother child interactions what is the age of the child. If the mental picture is that of a 17 year old child being carried on the shoulder of his mother, being physically placed in the bush, crying like a baby, mother having to give him water to drink, than the Islamic viewpoint is null and void. Why is there no verbal communications between mother and (17 YEAR OLD) child?

GENESIS: 21:14 - 21
So Abraham rose early in the morning, and took bread and a skin of water, and gave it to Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, along with the (17 YEAR OLD) child, and sent her away. And she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beer-Sheba. When the water in the skin was gone, she cast the (17 YEAR OLD) child under one of the bushes. Then she went, and sat down over against him a good way off, about the distance of a bowshot; for she said, “Let me not look upon the death of the (17 YEAR OLD) child.” And as she sat over against him, the (17 YEAR OLD) child lifted up his voice and wept. And God heard the voice of the (17 YEAR OLD) lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven, and said to her, “What troubles you, Hagar? Fear not; for God has heard the voice of the (17 YEAR OLD) lad where he is. Arise, lift up the (17 YEAR OLD) lad, and hold him fast with your hand; for I will make him a great nation.” Then God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the skin with water, and gave the (17 YEAR OLD) lad a drink. And God was with the (17 YEAR OLD) lad, and he grew up; he lived in the wilderness, and became an expert with the bow. He lived in the wilderness of Paran; and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt.

The age of Ishmael at this stage is crucial to the Abrahamic faiths. If he is 17 than the JUDEO/CHRISTIAN point of view about the Abrahamic covenant is correct. This has devastating theological consequences of unimaginable proportions.

This makes the conflict between Ishmael and Isaac and there descendants a work of fiction. I would strongly suggest it is clear cut case of racial discrimination and nothing to do with god almighty. The scribes have deliberately tried to make Isaac the only son and legitimate heir to the throne of Abraham??

Please can you rationally explain this anomaly?

I have asked many persons including my nephews and nieces - unbiased minds with no religious backgrounds but with reasonable command of the English language about this passage and they all agree that the child in the passage is an infant.

For background info on the future religion of mankind see the following websites:




HOLY QURAN CHAPTER 37 verses 101 - 122

101. So We gave him the good news of a boy ready to suffer and forbear.

102. Then, when (the son) reached (the age of) (serious) work with him, he said: "O my son! I see in vision that I offer thee in sacrifice: Now see what is thy view!" (The son) said: "O my father! Do as thou art commanded: thou will find me, if Allah so wills one practising Patience and Constancy!"

103. So when they had both submitted their wills (to Allah., and he had laid him prostrate on his forehead (for sacrifice),

104. We called out to him "O Abraham!

105. "Thou hast already fulfilled the vision!" - thus indeed do We reward those who do right.

106. For this was obviously a trial-

107. And We ransomed him with a momentous sacrifice:

108. And We left (this blessing) for him among generations (to come) in later times:

109. "Peace and salutation to Abraham!"

110. Thus indeed do We reward those who do right.

111. For he was one of our believing Servants.

112. And We gave him the good news of Isaac - a prophet,- one of the Righteous.

113. We blessed him and Isaac: but of their progeny are (some) that do right, and (some) that obviously do wrong, to their own souls.

114. Again (of old) We bestowed Our favour on Moses and Aaron,

115. And We delivered them and their people from (their) Great Calamity;

116. And We helped them, so they overcame (their troubles);

117. And We gave them the Book which helps to make things clear;

118. And We guided them to the Straight Way.

119. And We left (this blessing) for them among generations (to come) in later times:

120. "Peace and salutation to Moses and Aaron!"

121. Thus indeed do We reward those who do right.

122. For they were two of our believing Servants.

Therefore the claim that god gave the land to Israel is destroyed without the need of any WMD’s.

Volume 4, Book 55, Number 583:

Narrated Ibn Abbas:

The first lady to use a girdle was the mother of Ishmael. She used a girdle so that she might hide her tracks from Sarah. Abraham brought her and her son Ishmael while she was suckling him, to a place near the Ka'ba under a tree on the spot of Zam-zam, at the highest place in the mosque. During those days there was nobody in Mecca, nor was there any water So he made them sit over there and placed near them a leather bag containing some dates, and a small water-skin containing some water, and set out homeward. Ishmael's mother followed him saying, "O Abraham! Where are you going, leaving us in this valley where there is no person whose company we may enjoy, nor is there anything (to enjoy)?" She repeated that to him many times, but he did not look back at her Then she asked him, "Has Allah ordered you to do so?" He said, "Yes." She said, "Then He will not neglect us," and returned while Abraham proceeded onwards, and on reaching the Thaniya where they could not see him, he faced the Ka'ba, and raising both hands, invoked Allah saying the following prayers:
'O our Lord! I have made some of my offspring dwell in a valley without cultivation, by Your Sacred House (Kaba at Mecca) in order, O our Lord, that they may offer prayer perfectly. So fill some hearts among men with love towards them, and (O Allah) provide them with fruits, so that they may give thanks.' (14.37) Ishmael's mother went on suckling Ishmael and drinking from the water (she had).
When the water in the water-skin had all been used up, she became thirsty and her child also became thirsty. She started looking at him (i.e. Ishmael) tossing in agony; She left him, for she could not endure looking at him, and found that the mountain of Safa was the nearest mountain to her on that land. She stood on it and started looking at the valley keenly so that she might see somebody, but she could not see anybody. Then she descended from Safa and when she reached the valley, she tucked up her robe and ran in the valley like a person in distress and trouble, till she crossed the valley and reached the Marwa mountain where she stood and started looking, expecting to see somebody, but she could not see anybody. She repeated that (running between Safa and Marwa) seven times."
The Prophet said, "This is the source of the tradition of the walking of people between them (i.e. Safa and Marwa). When she reached the Marwa (for the last time) she heard a voice and she asked herself to be quiet and listened attentively. She heard the voice again and said, 'O, (whoever you may be)! You have made me hear your voice; have you got something to help me?" And behold! She saw an angel at the place of Zam-zam, digging the earth with his heel (or his wing), till water flowed from that place. She started to make something like a basin around it, using her hand in this way, and started filling her water-skin with water with her hands, and the water was flowing out after she had scooped some of it."
The Prophet added, "May Allah bestow Mercy on Ishmael's mother! Had she let the Zam-zam (flow without trying to control it) (or had she not scooped from that water) (to fill her water-skin), Zam-zam would have been a stream flowing on the surface of the earth." The Prophet further added, "Then she drank (water) and suckled her child. The angel said to her, 'Don't be afraid of being neglected, for this is the House of Allah which will be built by this boy and his father, and Allah never neglects His people.' The House (i.e. Kaba) at that time was on a high place resembling a hillock, and when torrents came, they flowed to its right and left. She lived in that way till some people from the tribe of Jurhum or a family from Jurhum passed by her and her child, as they (i.e. the Jurhum people) were coming through the way of Kada'. They landed in the lower part of Mecca where they saw a bird that had the habit of flying around water and not leaving it. They said, 'This bird must be flying around water, though we know that there is no water in this valley.' They sent one or two messengers who discovered the source of water, and returned to inform them of the water. So, they all came (towards the water)." The Prophet added, "Ishmael's mother was sitting near the water. They asked her, 'Do you allow us to stay with you?" She replied, 'Yes, but you will have no right to possess the water.' They agreed to that." The Prophet further said, "Ishmael's mother was pleased with the whole situation as she used to love to enjoy the company of the people. So, they settled there, and later on they sent for their families who came and settled with them so that some families became permanent residents there. The child (i.e. Ishmael) grew up and learnt Arabic from them and (his virtues) caused them to love and admire him as he grew up, and when he reached the age of puberty they made him marry a woman from amongst them.

3:46 pm  

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