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19 October 2005

Spain Signs International Arrest Warrant Citing U.S. Troops In Iraq ...

It's doubtful this will find much mainstream media time or space, stateside.

So see it here, for yourself.

Spain orders arrest of US troops

The incident was a shocking end to the war for journalist's Spanish judge has issued an international arrest order for three US soldiers over the shelling of a Baghdad hotel that killed a cameraman.

Judge Santiago Pedraz issued the warrant for Sgt Shawn Gibson, Capt Philip Wolford and Lt Col Philip de Camp, of the US 3rd Infantry Division.

Talk about waving a red rag at an already raging rampant bull.

But BRAVO, all the same, sir. Y, Viva Espana!

Speaking on Wednesday, the judge said he had issued the arrest order because of a lack of judicial co-operation from the US in the case.
Well surprise, surprise. Who'da thunk it ? No U.S. judicial cooperation, eh ?

So what else is new ?

The incident was witnessed on TV around the world on the day before the fall of the regime of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, as the Palestine was the base for almost all the foreign media crews in Baghdad.
Too ruddy right, it was.

The killing -- oops, sorry -- so called 'incident' was witnessed by TV viewers in their millions, [ including This Old Brit ] all across the globe.

Here's another relevant teaser taken from RTE ... the Irish TV/Radio, official news web-site.

A cameraman for the Telecinco Spanish TV service died this afternoon after being injured when a US tank fired a shell at the Palestine Hotel.
And another.

In total, four Reuters staff were injured in the attack. Mr Couso and 35-year-old Ukrainian-born cameraman, Taras Protsyuk, died later.
Here's some more of the same.

A correspondent for Al-Jazeera also died of his injuries following a strike on the station's Baghdad offices.
And there's more.

A cameraman was hit in the neck by shrapnel in the blast.
Then there's this.

Another Arab service, Abu Dhabi TV, said its Baghdad bureau was also hit.
But here's the best bit yet.

Gen. Vincent Brooks said US forces had been fired on 'from the (lobby of the Palestine) hotel', but could not explain how the return fire hit between 14 and 17 floors higher up.
Bollocks, General Brooks, that's bullshit.

In fact, it's bloody nonsense at best and a bunch of bleedin' lies at worst.

Millions of TV viewers across the globe watched it -- witnessed it with their own eyes, mister. This Old Brit, included.

There was no firing from the hotel. Nor from any place near it.

Not from anyone, anywhere --- except from your own adrenaline driven, trigger happy, blood thirsty, ill disciplined, dim witted tw*ts in that tank.

If ever there was a case of a smoking gun -- then this was the mother of them all -- sticking slap-bang straight out the centre -- of a U.S. tank turret.

Shame on you, General. And shame on those soldiers, so plainly to blame.

What they did that day was nothing less than wanton. It was downright deliberate and undoubtedly, unprovoked.

I repeat -- we watched it, mister -- in our millions, mate.

Argh. Methinks 'tis time to chill.

Time to take a tea-break.

And time for two good links.




Anonymous bluey said...

I rarely disagree Old Brit but I must on one thing here.

I saw the Palestine Hotel hit as well and yes, it was deliberate. No argument there. But I don't think that tank crew were ill-disciplined .....they were carrying out orders the letter.

That hotel was FULL of REAL reporters from all over the world. They were doing toooooo good a job and they weren't embedded.

The devious military bastards' plan worked. That was the begining of the end for real journalists..... and it's still heppening.

11:49 am  
Blogger newManifesto said...

Do you remember Victoria Clark's (Deputy Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs) statement after the "incident"?

She just said "War is a dengerous business" or something like that.

Cynical? Oh yes ...

2:17 pm  
Blogger Richard said...

Hi nm, welcome.

Yep. Like Rumsfeld said [often] "stuff happens".

Cynical? Yes. And evil and as guilty as hell, too - the whole BushCo crew.

2:25 pm  
Anonymous kiwi said...

seen the latest usa troops savagery?

watch this picture link and weep.

wonder if these cowards will ever be arrested?

dead men are easy meat for cowards, aren't they?

3:32 pm  
Blogger markfromireland said...

Don't underestimate the impact of that - desecration of corpses is very very haram indeed. Those assholes should be shot for reckless endangerment of everybody else by that sort of scumbucketry.

5:50 pm  
Anonymous graniab said...

While individual Americans cringe at these incidents, for the most part the US doesn't give a rat's ass about what the rest of the world thinks. The corpse burning incident made the paper today but it was buried in the middle pages. When have the US military ever been concerned about cultural sensitivity? They're clueless. I can just imagine what the fire-breathing shock jocks will say about this Spanish judge? The neocon nitwits are still telling us that the war is going well!

Still no word about Rory - Juan Cole has a chilling comment today

7:12 pm  
Blogger Richard said...

Thanks for that, kiwi.

What miserable excuses for men. Words fail me. But karma WILL catch up with them all - I'm sure.

8:44 pm  
Blogger Richard said...

graniab and everbody --- breaking now @ the BBC --- Rory freed ..

8:47 pm  
Blogger Richard said...

Latest .... "released unharmed" ... waiting for more

8:48 pm  
Blogger markfromireland said...


Guardian journalist freed in Iraq

Thursday October 20, 2005

Rory Carroll, the 33 year-old Guardian journalist kidnapped yesterday in Baghdad, was freed tonight.
The news of his freedom came in a telephone call from Carroll to his parents, Jo and Kate, at their home in Dublin.

His father Jo said: "He told me that he had been released, that he was perfectly OK and in an Iraqi government compound having a beer.

"He just said: 'I am safe and well and I have all my limbs on. I was in my cell and representatives of the Iraqi government came for me, they had a government car waiting. I have been in Baghdad all the time'.",16647,1597145,00.html

Relieved doesn't even begin to describe the feeling

8:52 pm  
Blogger Richard said...

Great. All's well that ends well.

I was on my way here with his, but mark beat me to the 'punch'.

** Here's the latest on the Rory, story via BBC.

9:21 pm  
Anonymous graniab said...

Thank you Mark and Richard - I just logged on - soooo glad this ended well - there was obviously alot of maneouverings behind the scenes. I am curious to hear the whole story!

9:46 pm  
Blogger markfromireland said...


There's a very good article by Lara Marlow (Irish Times normally subscrition only) available at the guardian:,16647,1596821,00.html

I don't know what the story is with The Guardian and cross-licensing so you might like to snaffle it up while you can just in case.

Lara Marlow btw ain't the kind to praise or gush by any stretch of the imagination.

10:27 pm  
Blogger Richard said...


Lovely link. Heads up appreciated.

10:50 pm  
Anonymous graniab said...

Thanks Mark and Richard - good story. I used to go on the Irish Times regularly but got pissed off when they started charging. I miss it quite a bit -

I know this is a ridiculous Q but how many Arabic speaking Irishmen are there in Finland?

11:07 pm  
Blogger Richard said...


Heh, Mark will no doubt answer for himself - but - psst - he's in Copenhagen, DENMARK.

Incidentally, latest breaking -- one of Saddam's defence lawyers has just been kidnapped at gunpoint -- possibly along with several others.

11:11 pm  
Anonymous graniab said...

Yes Richard you can tell that I am really quite the geography expert -

So poor Saddam has to find himself another legal eagle.

Goodnight all

11:45 pm  
Blogger markfromireland said...

Jeps faktist er richard helt korrekt du har misfortået - jeg bor i København den by da er høvedstaden til Danmark og ikke i Helsingfors den Finsk høvedby :-)

Men det klokken 1.00 efter midnat her og derfor skal jeg sove.

Go'nat :-)

[sorry G that was irresistible feel free to give me an awful slagging when I log on tomorrow

M ]

12:02 am  
Anonymous graniab said...

m - after I read your last post the shy retiring Dublin woman in me was thinking - yeah and what is 'dickhead' in Danish. But I got the gist (dug up some German from way back) I am frankly, quite grateful, you didn't make a comment in Gaelic. Dear God now I've really opened the floodgates. I really enjoy the comments from all the old Brit Crew and the bantering - I miss all that from the auld Sod - Those are good websites you shared with the crew and the updates on Rory -thanks - g

4:52 am  
Blogger Richard said...


Like you, I got the general gist and realised Mark wasn't 'having a go'. Maybe 'posing' - heh - but nothing more.

But Gawd, Gaelic? I would be totally lost there.

You're right about the links - all good 'uns.

2:22 pm  
Blogger Richard said...


I just realised I didn't respond to your first comment - sorry.

Anyhow, you could well be right - re; just following orders. Sad as it is to say, that's probably the best way to view it, because otherwise - either the Generals haven't got either control or a clue as to what's happening themselves. And/or, those tank crews don't know what the hell they're doing and are such lousy shots that they should be put on kitchen or office patrols.

Whatever - I still say what they did was 'murder' - a crime - whether in 'war time' or not, and so should be punished accordingly.

2:29 pm  
Blogger markfromireland said...

He he Grania here's your first lesson "på Dansk"

The word you're looking for is "Pikhoved" feel free to call me it any time you like. My Irish ain't bad what with me having a "fainne" an' all, it's a beautiful language and one I love but I'll bet that like me you have memories of it being taught in a way virtually guaranteed to make anybody hate it.

As to Arabic speaking - well if you're going to be a peacekeeper in an Arabic country it's a good idea to learn the language. So I did, as a side note my name "Mark from Ireland" is a contraction of what I eventually came to be called by the local people "Mark from Ireland - the follower of the prophet Jesus" the day I found that out was one of the proudest ones of my life but that's a long story and one for another day.

Richard - "I was just following orders" is called the "Nuremberg defense" and American courts martial don't accept it. In fact one of the great innovations of American militay law and one which has spread is that it is explicitly illegal to obey an illegal order. Lots and lots of grey areas obviously but that's the principle.

6:19 pm  
Blogger enigma4ever said...

Hey Richard, I was lurking about and saw this, and yes, it was barely mentioned on news here in the states, or in the newspapers, I did blog on it a while back on that is not the point, the point is that it should have made the news...and it didn't. And after the warrant was issued about a week later the Palestine Hotel was "targeted" by "insurgents"..yeah..right....Jose deserves better....and should have been honored more...

9:04 pm  

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