Blogroll Me! How This Old Brit Sees It ...: A bit about the United Nations, Americans, Israelis and Palistinians : It's the media, stupid !

04 January 2009

A bit about the United Nations, Americans, Israelis and Palistinians : It's the media, stupid !

Today, we offer our true thanks to one of our well respected reader/commenter/blogger buddies, for unearthing and sharing the video which follows further down.

Seemingly, she's still too shy to be listed on our (or anyone else's) blogroll, so we're pleased to respect her personally expressed wish on said subject. Unless and/or until she says otherwise of course.

We sincerely believe that absolutely everyone should see this.

Especially, those of our readers residing in America. Be they for us or against us.

And please, people everywhere, always remember this:

The greatest sedition is silence - and - in the end,
it's the truth that sets us all free.

**N.B. Professional (and/or even amateur) nit-pickers, naysayers, straw men/women, etc, definitely needn't endeavour to 'enlighten' us that all of these photographs weren't taken this week. Nor, that neither the video nor clips therein neither are nor have been, updated by the day. Since what matters most is simply that certain scenes are seen, shared, and passed on. Then, let those that have any eyes and intelligence at all judge for themselves, then draw their own conclusions.

Now, we simply couldn't close without relating this tid-bit.

Earlier today we passed on the video elsewhere. One particular nit-picker (in America) watched it, then proceeded to blah, blah, thus. Everyone knows that the Palestinians did this, that and the other - all the wrong things, of course -- while everyone also knows that Israel did this, that and the other - all the right things, of course.

Being a serial consumer, for goodness knows how long, of the very media being mentioned, no doubt contributed greatly to him/her entirely missing the main point.

Moreover, he/she asked how peace with the bad, bad Palestinians could possibly be made. Obviously, he/she couldn't comprehend even the opening screened information regarding the United (civilised) Nations' clear/concise directive re: Israel's internationally illegal occupation - in which it (UN) quite categorically decreed that Israel should end it forthwith.

Up to the very instant of our writing this sentence, so many, many, many years later, Israel still steadfastly defies the United (civilised) Nations. The United (civilised) Nations, that is, of this planet Earth.

We didn't have either the time or inclination to suggest to him/her that the blindingly obvious way to make peace possible was simply for Israel to stop ignoring the United (civilised) Nations. The United (civilised) Nations, that is, of this planet Earth.

*(Cross posted acros at 'appletree')

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well done. Thanks for this.

That American you mentioned is a fine example of a prevailing majority example ref/anything I/P.

They always say "everyone knows" when quite the reverse is true. They can't quite grasp that their vested interest ridden mainstream exists in it's present form solely for the benefi of it advertisers not it's readers. After all, they're the ones that produce the media whores' vast profits, not the naieve reader.

Isn't it mind blowing how so many supposedly educated people take the view that if their regular news source says something, it MUST be true?

9:24 pm  
Anonymous warrior one said...

Smart ass antysemite nazi filth!!!!!!
Fucken Brit losers!!!!
Arab terorist pricks!!!!!
Palstine gaza monsters!!!
United nations jerks!!!!

Fine bedfelows you make creeps!!!!

9:32 pm  
Blogger Gert said...

Well done, Richard.

The vids are going up on mine first thing tomorrow.

9:48 pm  
Blogger Nevin said...

From reading Warrior's comments above, I can whole heartedly tell everyone that, this is how a human being can loose all perspective and any touch with reality. As a result of the horrible incidents of WW2, the Jewish psyche dwarfed into a version of their own monster.

I blame the foreign policy of the Europeans and the Americans. As a result of the European guilt, they let Israel get away with so many atrocities that now, it is almost too late. If you ask me the "west" is complicit in the Israeli crimes...

The abused child (Israel) is filled with so much anger towards his abuser (Europe) that when he grows up, what does he do? He goes an abuses other weaklings (Palestinians) ... So the horrible cycle continues... The abused one has become an abuser...

I understand the Jewish pain of holocaust but come onnnn people... it was not the Palestinians that were responsible for the sins of the Europeans...

10:01 pm  
Blogger Nevin said...

PS: When I say "come on people", I meant not the commentators or Richard, as they are trying their best to spread the pain of the Palestinians but I meant in general "others" like Warrior, who refuses to except what is really going on...

10:05 pm  
Anonymous Charles said...

Richard, I'm surprised you've let Warrior's personal attack cooment remain.

Nevin, when talking about European guilt I trust you mean Nazi German guilt. Don't you realise that apart from Britain almost all of Europe was also occupied by Germany and under the heel of the jackboot? Mainland Europe countries could not help any of their citizens - be they Christians, Jews, Muslims or anything else.

Only when Britain was "eventually" joined by America then them both in return joined by Russia that anything could realisticly be done for anyone in mainland Europe.

By then of course it was far too late for the millions already dead, not all of whom were Jewish by the way.

10:30 pm  
Anonymous gogs said...

The Palastian people, YES, people are now being pounded by the air, land and sea forces of Israel, while the world sits idly by.

There's one main guilty party here - America. If it weren't for them there are many countries that would already have stepped in to help protect those poor Palestinian people.

*Charles, I agree with both your points.*

11:09 pm  
Anonymous s o l said...

gogs speaks truth....attacks now are from air and land and now from sea also

look at link pleas

11:25 pm  
Anonymous Sally said...

My understanding of Nevin's comment about "European guilt" is that it means the centuries of mistreatment of the Jewish communities in their midst, culminating with the Nazis. Rather than taking responsibility for any of this racism, the easy way out for Europe was to "create" Israel as a means of ridding the Jews living in their own lands. Easy to do as Europe had no conscience, but had the experience, of helping themselves to land that was not theirs, caring not a hoot that the greasy Arabs living there mattered, and creating borders that defined the new country for Jews.

Well, the video "Peace, Propaganda, and the Promised Land" is excellent, though too genteel for those of us who really know how bad Israel and Zionist ideology, and behaviour really is.

warrior's comment should stay. And blogs like this need to be read to know what we're up against:

As for reasoning skills, forums and websites are full of this kind of analysis:

The creation of Israel, and the people and reasoning that go hand in hand with supporting its existence, is the worst thing the Europeans have done as its malevolent fallout affects every single human being alive.

11:30 pm  
Anonymous Sally said...

Rabbi Michael Lerner was given a voice in the video you've linked to, that I also mentioned above.

Here's his opening para, and ending sentence, as today's Guest Columnist in The Times:

"Israel's attempt to wipe out Hamas is understandable, but stupid. No country in the world is going to ignore the provocation of rockets being launched from neighbouring territory day after day. If Mexico had a group of anti-imperialists bombing Texas, imagine how long it would take for America to mobilise a counterattack. Israel has every right to respond."

"I remain in mourning for the Jewish people, for Israel and for the world."

Using Mexico as an analogy for occupied, beleagured, battered Gaza? Hamas elected to be the representative of the Gazans? I did plow all through his commentary, ending in any mourning for Gazans being conspicuously absent.

You never get the chance to recover from the last warped commentary, or news presentation, etc, before it's layered with another. How can anyone remain sane trying to unravel it all?

The Times also reports "controversial" phosphorus bombs are being used by Israel in their assault, but that their use is "internationally legal" because they are being used for "illumination". Well, we should be grateful this use is in the open, as Israel has always denied ever using phosphorus bombs in the past.

If this is the state in the UK's MSM; can you imagine how bad it is for us in USA?

My head has not completely burst, however, because I also read today's Columbia University professor Joseph Massad's opinion piece for Electronic Intifada, in which we learn: "In the heyday of the PLO as a symbol of Palestinian liberation, the organization would lay flower wreathes at the Warsaw Ghetto monument to honor these fallen Jewish heroes."

12:43 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regarding the phospherous bombing : it was most recently used by the USA.

Remember Falluja? Well, they (or at least the survvors) remember it all too well. It was used widely as a weapon to burn people alive. Yes, really. And here's something else everyone should know.

A small chemical "change" in an already well nown formula was made, along with a name change in order to make things "legal".

It used to be called "napalm". Remember "napalm". Check it out.

12:58 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Btw ~ I meant to add ~ check also, white phospherous.

1:01 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm glad you liked the video Richard, I still havnt posted it myself. Im afraid Im beginning to despair. The American's on my blog seem to have no understanding of the middle east... so as with Iraq, I have posted, tried to simplify, humanise Palestinians so they are not ignorant of what is happening, given as the video shows the bias and misinformation (if any) their country receives, I was prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt....

but as with Iraq, they are just not interested. If I dont understand something, I get off my butt and research it, read what I can, make informed decisions....If I now post on Gaza they skim over it to something lighter and more palatable...

The bias of Ameican journalism is not new... google John Pilgers Chicago speech (I love the man) my son is at Uni (currently in Canada, having just returned from Kosovo) studying journalism & we have always question what is presented to us. In Australia we have a healthy disrespect for media, and authority (from convict days :) We question what is right and wrong, in our country and others...

When this bloodbath ends, will they blame Bush for it like they do Iraq... hello people wake up and see what is being done in the name of Americas 'Democracy'

Sorry to waffle on ... I just feel so disempowered with what is happening.... Abz

Oh while Im on a roll, here is another video "Shoot The Messenger' based on journalism, not specifically of Gaza but does include it especially an which includes an exclusive interview with Fadl Shanaa, the Palestinian journalist killed in Gaza. I also found the death of the American newsreader in Iraq interesting.

ps, Im outta the closet I

8:57 am  
Blogger Nevin said...

Sally understood my point very well... ! thanks...

I agree with her last comment as well... Warrior's comments must stay! As we have to know how the other side thinks... Getting rid off such comments does not eliminate how they think...

12:35 pm  
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3:15 pm  
Anonymous Josef Goebbels said...

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8:29 pm  
Blogger Richard said...

Please note : comment moderation has been switched on ~ as is usually the case whenever we blog about Israel.
No doubt 'sane' readers & commenters won't be the slightest bit put out by this temporary meassure.

And temporary it shall be, we assure you. Since the stupid sob responsible is obviously too obtuse to realise that by making so many silly posts, and by spending so much time here on the site ~ that's he/she's made it so much easier to "sort them out" ~ good style.

;^ )

9:18 pm  
Blogger Richard said...

Incidentally, we strongly advise not clicking on their ID link, since it's highly likely to be 'infected' ~ in more ways than one.

9:20 pm  
Blogger Richard said...


Diodn't take long, did it?

Already, we've traced two probable sources/culprits and one possible one.

Say tuned. Our geek guy is already hard at work.

9:32 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rick, if you look even closer at the pic of those Israeli thugs taking photos of their 'kill', you will see that the 'kill' is the small boy in the pic above; he's wearing the same distinctive shirt.

As for 'warrior', he's no more a 'warrior' than I'm Marilyn Munroe! True warriors have their own code of honour; lines even they will not cross. Remember Leon's code of "No women, no kids"? And he was a paid assassin! Nah! 'Warrior' seems more like a 'hide in the basement when there's trouble about' kind of guy to me. A George Bush kinda 'warrior'. All mouth and trousers, as we say!

Keep up the good work, both.


1:05 pm  

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